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00:01:56 #1 Time to light the scene of the ages.

00:06:07 #2 Tell the story.

00:06:09 #3 I was put in jail recently.

00:06:12 #4 Why?

00:06:14 #5 Because I, a man, was caught on the street wearing

00:06:18 #6 women's clothing.

00:06:19 #7 This was my fourth arrest for the same act.

00:06:23 #8 In life, I must continue wearing them.

00:06:26 #9 Therefore, it would only be a matter of time

00:06:29 #10 until my next arrest.

00:06:31 #11 This is the only way.

00:06:34 #12 Let my body rest in death forever.

00:06:38 #13 In the things I cannot wear in life.

00:06:48 #14 Inspector Warren is here to see you, Dr. Alton.

00:06:51 #15 Oh yes, show him in, Miss Stevens.

00:07:03 #16 Sit down, thank you.

00:07:11 #17 Very busy man, Dr. Alton, I know.

00:07:14 #18 I appreciate this time you're giving me.

00:07:17 #19 Business or pleasure, Inspector.

00:07:20 #20 In a way, business.

00:07:25 #21 policeman to inspector 20 years of it I guess I've seen everything there is for

00:07:30 #22 a policeman to see and I wonder if we ever stop learning learning about which we

00:07:38 #23 see trying to learn more an ounce of prevention have one life to live learn

00:08:04 #24 something from you and with that knowledge maybe save some human from a

00:08:10 #25 of fate which I just witnessed a few days ago.

00:08:14 #26 A four-time loser.

00:08:16 #27 This type of case comes to me as well as yourself,

00:08:19 #28 many times during the course of one month.

00:08:22 #29 The suicide?

00:08:25 #30 Most of us have our idiosyncrasies.

00:08:28 #31 This fellow's was quite pronounced.

00:08:30 #32 Yes, but I wonder if it rated the death warrant it received.

00:08:35 #33 I don't think so.

00:08:36 #34 Well, that's why I'm here today, doctor.

00:08:39 #35 What do we do about it?

00:08:41 #36 I've always heard you to be a hard-hearted policeman,

00:08:44 #37 Inspector.

00:08:46 #38 Isn't that what's thought of most policemen?

00:08:48 #39 The laws are written.

00:08:50 #40 The policeman is hired to see that those laws are enforced.

00:08:53 #41 We have a job to do.

00:08:55 #42 As in most jobs, there's always somebody

00:08:57 #43 who doesn't want that job to be done.

00:09:01 #44 In most factories today, the employer

00:09:02 #45 has put up suggestion boxes.

00:09:05 #46 Even the employer needs advice once in a while.

00:09:08 #47 I think in the case that we're referring to, I need advice.

00:09:13 #48 Maybe it shouldn't have happened as it did.

00:09:16 #49 But it did.

00:09:17 #50 Perhaps the next time we can prevent it.

00:09:21 #51 Let's get our story straight.

00:09:23 #52 You're referring to the suicide of the transvestite?

00:09:26 #53 If that's the word you men of medical science use for a man

00:09:29 #54 who wears women's clothing, yes.

00:09:32 #55 Yes, in cold, technical language, that's the word.

00:09:35 #56 as unfriendly and as vicious as it may sound.

00:09:38 #57 However, in actuality, it's not an unfriendly word,

00:09:41 #58 nor is it vicious when you know the people to whom it pertains.

00:09:45 #59 Would the sex operation do these people any good?

00:09:47 #60 I understand you were quite prominent in the case

00:09:49 #61 that hit the headlines a few weeks ago.

00:09:52 #62 In some cases, yes, others no.

00:09:55 #63 Well, the papers certainly had a field day with that one.

00:09:58 #64 Stranges it may seem, even though it was a field day,

00:10:01 #65 as you so aptly put it, it's not a new story.

00:10:04 #66 Sex change has been performed many times.

00:10:07 #67 Those whose sex can be changed, they're the easy ones.

00:10:11 #68 But what of those who so desperately

00:10:12 #69 want to be of the opposite sex yet can't change their sex?

00:10:16 #70 Such as was the case with Patrick, Patricia, the suicide.

00:10:20 #71 I'd like to understand this, doctor, as best you can tell me.

00:10:24 #72 You can only fully understand the sex change

00:10:27 #73 by taking two entirely different cases, two men

00:10:30 #74 with exactly the same background, from childhood to manhood

00:10:34 #75 and under their own decisions and destinations.

00:10:37 #76 I'd like to hear the story to the fullest.

00:10:40 #77 Only the infinity of the depths of a man's mind

00:10:43 #78 can really tell the story.

00:11:01 #79 A young man, though, speaks the words of the all wise.

00:11:11 #80 No one can really tell the story.

00:11:15 #81 Mistakes are made, but there is no mistaking

00:11:22 #82 The thoughts in a man's mind.

00:11:25 #83 The story begun.

00:11:35 #84 One might say, there, but for the grace of God, Goa.

00:12:05 #85 Why is the modern world shocked by this headline?

00:12:08 #86 Why?

00:12:10 #87 Once, not so very long ago, the people of the world

00:12:13 #88 were saying, airplanes.

00:12:16 #89 Why, it's against the creator's will.

00:12:20 #90 If the creator wanted us to fly, he'd have given us wings.

00:12:25 #91 But we fly.

00:12:27 #92 Maybe some of you may still remember an even sillier remark.

00:12:31 #93 Automobiles? Bad.

00:12:33 #94 They scare the Hosses.

00:12:36 #95 If the creator had meant for us to roll around the countryside,

00:12:39 #96 we'd have been born with wheels.

00:12:42 #97 Silly? Certainly.

00:12:45 #98 We were not born with wings.

00:12:47 #99 We were not born with wheels.

00:12:50 #100 But in the modern world of the day it's an accepted fact that we must have.

00:12:55 #101 So we have corrected that which nature has not given us.

00:12:58 #102 Strangely enough, nature has given us all these things.

00:13:02 #103 We just had to learn how to put nature's elements together for our use. That's all.

00:13:07 #104 Yet, the world is shocked by a sex change.

00:13:11 #105 If the creator had wanted us to fly, he'd have given us wings.

00:13:16 #106 If the creator had meant us to roll around the countryside, we'd have been born with wheels.

00:13:22 #107 If the creator had meant us to be boys, we certainly would have been born boys.

00:13:28 #108 If the creator had meant us to be born girls, we certainly would have been born girls.

00:13:34 #109 Are we sure? Nature makes mistakes. It's proven every day.

00:13:41 #110 This person is a transvestite, a man who is more comfortable wearing girls' clothes.

00:13:47 #111 The term transvestite is the name given by medical science to those persons who wear the clothing of the opposite sex.

00:13:54 #112 Many a transvestite actually wishes to be the opposite sex.

00:13:59 #113 The title of this can only be labeled, Behind Locked Doors.

00:14:04 #114 Give this man satin undies, a dress, a sweater and a skirt, or even the lounging outfit he has on,

00:14:10 #115 and he's the happiest individual in the world.

00:14:13 #116 He can work better, think better, he can play better, and he can be more of a credit to his community and his government because he is happy.

00:14:22 #117 These things are his comfort.

00:14:24 #118 But why the wig and makeup?

00:14:26 #119 He dares to enter the street dressed in the clothes he so much desires to wear.

00:14:31 #120 but only if he really appears female.

00:14:34 #121 The long hair, the makeup, the clothing, the actual contours of a girl.

00:14:39 #122 Most transvestites do not want to change their life, their bodies.

00:14:44 #123 Many of them simply want to change the clothing they wear, to that is worn by the opposite sex.

00:14:49 #124 Glenn is engaged to be married to Barbara, a lovely, intelligent girl.

00:14:53 #125 Those fingernails have got to go.

00:14:56 #126 You know, I didn't realize they're as long as they are.

00:14:59 #127 My goodness, they're almost as long as mine.

00:15:02 #128 Maybe even prettier.

00:15:04 #129 We'll have to paint them sometime just for the fun of it.

00:15:07 #130 We'll trim them?

00:15:09 #131 That's for sure.

00:15:12 #132 You know, honey, you've invited me to dinner so many times in the last couple of months.

00:15:16 #133 It's almost like we're married already.

00:15:18 #134 I wish we were, darling. It's been a long year.

00:15:22 #135 For both of us.

00:15:24 #136 But now, my studies are through, colleges concluded, and I'm free at last.

00:15:31 #137 Free? For the time being.

00:15:34 #138 Huh? Oh, how about joining me for an after-dinner drink?

00:15:41 #139 The living room?

00:15:42 #140 Mhmm.

00:15:48 #141 Modern man is a hard-working human. Throughout the day, his mind and his muscles are busy at building the modern world and its business administration.

00:15:57 #142 His clothing is rough, coarse, starched according to the specifications of his accepted job.

00:16:04 #143 At home, what does modern man have to look forward to for his body comfort?

00:16:11 #144 The things provided for his home, a wool or flannel robe,

00:16:15 #145 his feet encased in the same thick tight-fitting leather that his shoes are made of.

00:16:20 #146 These are the things provided for his home comfort.

00:16:24 #147 It doesn't look so comfortable, does it?

00:16:27 #148 and get the hat better still get the receding hairline men's hats are so tight

00:16:33 #149 they cut off the blood flow to the head thus cutting off the growth of hair seven

00:16:38 #150 out of ten men wear a hat so the advertisements say seven out of ten men

00:16:43 #151 are bald but what about the ladies yes modern woman is a hard-working individual

00:16:51 #152 also but when modern woman's day of work is done that which is designed for her

00:16:57 #153 own comfort is comfort. Hats that give no obstruction to the blood flow. Hats that do not crush

00:17:04 #154 the hair. Interesting thought, isn't it? Just for comparison, let's go native. Back to

00:17:12 #155 the animal instinct. There in the lesser civilized part of the world, it's the male

00:17:19 #156 who adorns himself with a fancy object such as paints, frills and masks. The true instinct.

00:17:25 #157 The animal instinct. Bird and animal life.

00:17:29 #158 Is it not so that it's the male who is the fancy one?

00:17:32 #159 Could it be that the male was meant to attract the attention of the female?

00:17:37 #160 What's so wrong about that?

00:17:40 #161 Where is the animal instinct in modern civilization?

00:17:44 #162 Female has the fluff and the finery, as specified by those who design and sell.

00:17:49 #163 Little miss female, you should feel quite proud of the situation.

00:17:54 #164 You of course realize that it's predominantly men who design your clothes, your jewelry,

00:17:59 #165 your makeup, your hair styling, your perfume.

00:18:03 #166 But life, even though it's changes or slow, moves on.

00:18:08 #167 There's no law against wearing such apparel on the street as long as it can be distinguished

00:18:13 #168 that man is man and woman is woman.

00:18:16 #169 But what is it that would happen were this individual to appear this way on the street?

00:18:23 #170 doing it now. Laughing. Yet it's not a situation to be laughed at. Thus the strange case of

00:18:32 #171 Glenn who is Glenda, one and the same person. Not half man, half woman, but nevertheless

00:18:39 #172 man and woman in the same body. Even though by all outward appearances Glenn is fully and

00:18:44 #173 completely a man.

00:18:46 #174 Sister, let me borrow her dress.

00:19:03 #175 You want to borrow your sister's dress?

00:19:06 #176 What for?

00:19:07 #177 I want to wear it to the Halloween party.

00:19:09 #178 There are names for boys who go around wearing girls' clothes.

00:19:13 #179 Oh, don't be silly, darling.

00:19:15 #180 You go ahead and wear your sister's dress, Glenn.

00:19:18 #181 You always did look much better as a girl than you do as a man.

00:19:22 #182 Glenn did wear the dress to the Halloween party.

00:19:25 #183 He even took first prize.

00:19:27 #184 And one day it wasn't Halloween any longer.

00:19:36 #185 I wish I had the sight into such things to be able to advise you, Sheila.

00:20:04 #186 Maybe... maybe if you took the problem to a doctor.

00:20:10 #187 It's Glenn that needs the doctor.

00:20:12 #188 Things like this go wrong with someone so close and in your own family.

00:20:22 #189 It's so hard to believe.

00:20:24 #190 It's not really hard to believe.

00:20:26 #191 It's just hard for you to accept.

00:20:28 #192 for you to accept. Well of course it's hard for me to accept. Suppose I were to come home with Roy or

00:20:35 #193 one of my other boyfriend some night and find Glenn like I did last night. Yeah that would be hard

00:20:42 #194 to explain. That's the understatement of the year. How does one go about introducing your friends to

00:20:50 #195 your brother when brother's wearing your best sweater and your skirt and makeup to boot? Glenn

00:21:06 #196 Glenn is not a homosexual.

00:21:08 #197 Glenn is a transvestite, but he is not a homosexual.

00:21:12 #198 Transvestism is the term given by medical science to those persons who desperately wish to wear

00:21:17 #199 the clothing of the opposite sex.

00:21:19 #200 Yet, whose sex life in all instances remains quite normal.

00:21:25 #201 Would you be surprised to know that this rough, tough individual was wearing pink satin

00:21:29 #202 hundies under his rough exterior clothing?

00:21:32 #203 He is.

00:21:33 #204 Then there is your friend the milkman who knows how to find comfort at home.

00:21:45 #205 I can't stand it any longer.

00:21:47 #206 He wears all my clothes. Nothing is sacred to him, even my briefs.

00:21:54 #207 He has every one of my sweaters stretched out of shape.

00:21:59 #208 Of course he has always replaced them, but then they didn't last long either.

00:22:08 #209 But your honor ruffles on his shirts and shorts really.

00:22:15 #210 Glenn and all the hundreds of thousands of other Glenn's across the nation face quite a problem.

00:22:22 #211 Glenn is engaged to be married to Barbara, a lovely intelligent girl.

00:22:27 #212 The problem, Glenda, Glenn's other self.

00:22:32 #213 The girl that he himself is, his other individual personality.

00:22:38 #214 You look tired tonight, Glenn.

00:22:40 #215 Yeah, I guess I am.

00:22:42 #216 It's been a long day.

00:22:44 #217 Have you seen the paper yet?

00:22:46 #218 No, why?

00:22:47 #219 It's headlines.

00:22:48 #220 A man had a sex change to a woman.

00:22:51 #221 Isn't that a strange case?

00:22:54 #222 I wonder how some people's mind works.

00:22:57 #223 Well, some people aren't happy the way they are.

00:23:00 #224 I suppose so, but to change one's sex,

00:23:04 #225 that's a pretty drastic step to take.

00:23:08 #226 If it's the only way, I'm for it.

00:23:13 #227 I wonder what I would do in a case like that

00:23:16 #228 if I were in the mental turmoil that that person went through.

00:23:20 #229 Or if I suddenly realized that something was mentally wrong with you.

00:23:24 #230 Well, it's hard to visualize.

00:23:27 #231 Here we are, two perfectly normal people,

00:23:31 #232 thought to be married and lead a normal life together.

00:23:35 #233 And there's this poor fellow who never could have been happy if it wasn't for modern medical science.

00:23:42 #234 Our fourth term in psychology explains a lot of the facts.

00:23:45 #235 But I'm afraid the end of study is only the beginning of reality.

00:23:51 #236 Glenn's problem is a deep one, but he must tell her soon.

00:23:55 #237 She's begun to notice things, his nails, his eyes when he looks into a ladies store window.

00:24:01 #238 So many of the little things that are hard to hide.

00:24:04 #239 Soon she will realize.

00:24:08 #240 Then there was the time Barbara was wearing the sweater.

00:24:10 #241 Glenn had always wanted to feel on his own body.

00:24:13 #242 It was becoming an obsession to him.

00:24:15 #243 He must have it.

00:24:17 #244 What's the matter, Glenn, darling?

00:24:21 #245 I guess I was daydreaming.

00:24:23 #246 Something seems to be troubling you.

00:24:25 #247 Why don't you tell me?

00:24:27 #248 It's nothing.

00:24:29 #249 Once, long ago,

00:24:31 #250 Just after we started going steady together,

00:24:34 #251 we promised we'd never lie to each other.

00:24:37 #252 Are we gonna start now, just because we're engaged to be married?

00:24:41 #253 It's just that...

00:24:44 #254 Oh, Barbara, it's nothing that a little sleep won't cure.

00:24:46 #255 It's been an awful long day.

00:24:48 #256 It's more than that.

00:24:50 #257 Come on, tell me, darling.

00:24:52 #258 Who knows? Maybe I can help.

00:24:54 #259 That's just it, you could.

00:24:56 #260 Then something is troubling you.

00:24:59 #261 Yes.

00:25:00 #262 Do I have a right to know?

00:25:02 #263 You have a right to know.

00:25:04 #264 But let's just say for the moment that...

00:25:06 #265 I'm afraid to tell you.

00:25:08 #266 I'm afraid I'd lose you.

00:25:11 #267 Nothing could be as bad as all that.

00:25:14 #268 I love you, and you love me.

00:25:16 #269 And nothing in the world can change that.

00:25:19 #270 I hope not.

00:25:22 #271 I really hope not.

00:25:26 #272 Glam, is it another woman?

00:25:29 #273 He must be told.

00:25:49 #274 Oh, is the same.

00:25:54 #275 He's not had the nerve to tell her.

00:25:56 #276 But he must soon come to some conclusion

00:25:58 #277 or forget the marriage.

00:26:00 #278 Should he tell Barbara of his glenda now

00:26:02 #279 before the wedding,

00:26:04 #280 or hit her between the eyes with it after,

00:26:06 #281 when it might be too late for either of them,

00:26:08 #282 the world is a strange place to live in.

00:26:15 #283 All those cards, all going someplace,

00:26:18 #284 all carrying humans which are carrying out their lives.

00:26:21 #285 The world is shocked by a person who changed his sex.

00:26:28 #286 Glenda is shocked also, but by another reason.

00:26:32 #287 Someone like her had the nerve to do something factual about their situation.

00:26:37 #288 There are so many problems for Glenn and all the other Glenn.

00:26:41 #289 Perhaps the fear of discovery of the underthings they wear beneath their regular outer clothing,

00:26:46 #290 or that which they wear during their nightly visit to Morpheus, God of sleep.

00:26:52 #291 Thank you very much and I'm sure she's going to enjoy it very much.

00:26:55 #292 If you want to return it be sure that you bring the sales slip.

00:26:58 #293 Thank you.

00:26:59 #294 Can I help you, sir?

00:27:07 #295 Yeah.

00:27:08 #296 Let me see an idea.

00:27:10 #297 Whoa, what size?

00:27:12 #298 Twelve.

00:27:13 #299 The color, the material?

00:27:15 #300 Very sheer.

00:27:19 #301 That's too much.

00:27:24 #302 Well, we have this here.

00:27:26 #303 Would you like that?

00:27:27 #304 Something like this?

00:27:29 #305 As late?

00:27:30 #306 Perhaps he admires the material too long.

00:27:36 #307 You can see how sheer the material really is.

00:27:40 #308 Yes.

00:27:41 #309 You see, it's all pure nylon and only $21.95.

00:27:46 #310 And of course it will never snag.

00:27:48 #311 And Glenda and all the glens and glenders have an even bigger problem.

00:28:02 #312 The homosexual, it is true at times, does adopt the clothing

00:28:23 #313 or the makeup of a woman to lure members of his own sex.

00:28:27 #314 But this is not so for the transvestite.

00:28:30 #315 The transvestite is not interested in those of their own sex.

00:28:34 #316 The clothing is not worn to attract the attention of their own sex,

00:28:38 #317 but to eliminate themselves from being a member of that sex.

00:28:42 #318 How you doing?

00:28:50 #319 Monday again.

00:28:51 #320 You know, I think Monday is about the worst day of the week.

00:28:55 #321 A perfectly wonderful weekend and back to the sweatshops.

00:28:59 #322 Too bad who is going to work.

00:29:02 #323 Say, did you eat about the guy that had his sex changed to a girl?

00:29:07 #324 Says he was perfectly normal too.

00:29:09 #325 How can a guy be normal and go and do a thing like that to his self?

00:29:13 #326 All the same.

00:29:14 #327 It must take a lot of guts to pull a stunt like that.

00:29:17 #328 That's a problem I don't ever intend to face.

00:29:20 #329 Maybe it's a problem we should all face.

00:29:22 #330 I don't get you.

00:29:23 #331 Just think of the unhappy life.

00:29:25 #332 The miserable time this world of ours must have given that poor guy.

00:29:29 #333 I still don't get you.

00:29:30 #334 Now, here is a guy who wanted to be a girl.

00:29:34 #335 Supposing there had been no way to change a sex.

00:29:37 #336 You sound as if you really had up on this thing.

00:29:40 #337 I guess I am.

00:29:41 #338 Do you realize what would happen if every man in the country

00:29:44 #339 that wanted to wear women's clothes or felt like a woman

00:29:46 #340 went to their doctors and wanted a sex change?

00:29:49 #341 Of course.

00:29:50 #342 That's why I say perhaps society

00:29:52 #343 should be a little bit more lenient with them.

00:29:55 #344 Maybe society should try to understand them as human beings.

00:29:59 #345 Another day done.

00:30:03 #346 Thank goodness.

00:30:05 #347 See you tomorrow, Jack.

00:30:07 #348 Solangeo.

00:30:13 #349 Until tomorrow.

00:30:15 #350 Hi, Johnny.

00:30:27 #351 Come on in.

00:30:28 #352 And hit it right for the kicking.

00:30:30 #353 I can't let that dinner burn.

00:30:32 #354 You know, I thought I was going to have to eat alone tonight.

00:30:35 #355 Well, you probably will because I've already eaten.

00:30:38 #356 What's up?

00:30:52 #357 Nothing much.

00:30:53 #358 Say, you really look down in the dumps.

00:30:57 #359 I guess I got a problem.

00:30:58 #360 Haven't we all?

00:31:00 #361 I mean a real problem, one.

00:31:03 #362 Like I've never had the face before.

00:31:06 #363 Our whole existence is one big problem after another.

00:31:10 #364 I want to get married.

00:31:12 #365 You have a problem.

00:31:16 #366 When did this all come about?

00:31:19 #367 For nearly a year, I've been engaged to a very wonderful girl.

00:31:23 #368 Now the time is getting very close to the man with the book.

00:31:27 #369 I'm scared to death.

00:31:29 #370 You love her?

00:31:31 #371 Very much.

00:31:32 #372 Does she love you?

00:31:34 #373 Yes.

00:31:35 #374 There's no problem.

00:31:37 #375 Marry the girl.

00:31:39 #376 Are you forgetting about my other self?

00:31:43 #377 You'll have to tell her, of course.

00:31:45 #378 Yeah, but when? Before?

00:31:54 #379 I think you know the answer to that one yourself.

00:32:02 #380 My mind's in a muddle.

00:32:04 #381 I cannot pick fog.

00:32:06 #382 I can't make sense to myself sometimes.

00:32:11 #383 I thought I could stop wearing these things.

00:32:15 #384 I tried, honestly, I tried.

00:32:17 #385 Haven't had a stitch of the month for nearly two weeks

00:32:22 #386 until tonight.

00:32:23 #387 Then I couldn't stand it anymore.

00:32:27 #388 Had to put the monogra out of my mind.

00:32:31 #389 I'm afraid I'll lose her.

00:32:36 #390 I don't want that to happen because I really love her.

00:32:43 #391 OK.

00:32:45 #392 Here's a story from fact.

00:32:47 #393 Johnny tells his story.

00:32:51 #394 He had not too long ago been married himself.

00:32:54 #395 It kept quiet about his transvestite desires and the hopes that the new wife would never discover it.

00:33:00 #396 However, one day, the little woman came home unexpectedly an hour early.

00:33:09 #397 That marriage ended here.

00:33:18 #398 Will your problem be like mine?

00:33:21 #399 Most probably it will, because her love hasn't been built up for such a thing.

00:33:30 #400 She, your wife,

00:33:32 #401 She will not have been taught enough about the problems to cope with it.

00:33:38 #402 They must now make her decision.

00:33:45 #403 Or, forever forget the marriage to Barbara.

00:33:49 #404 Glenn Glenda should consult a competent psychiatrist.

00:33:53 #405 But then very few transvestites wish to change their strange desires.

00:33:58 #406 This is their life.

00:34:00 #407 To take it away from them might do as great a harm as taking away an arm or a leg or life itself.

00:34:07 #408 Many even carry their transvestite desires to the grave with them.

00:34:11 #409 Yes, it is a problem.

00:34:16 #410 But Glenda, remember back almost a year ago when Glenn and Barbara accepted each other?

00:34:27 #411 That's the sixth time you've said goodnight.

00:34:30 #412 I guess it is.

00:34:32 #413 Look.

00:34:34 #414 Come on over here a minute.

00:34:36 #415 What is it?

00:34:37 #416 Never mind, just sit down.

00:34:38 #417 You're getting to think you'd never get around to it.

00:34:49 #418 Did you mean your wealth?

00:34:51 #419 What do you think?

00:35:01 #420 I must finish college first.

00:35:03 #421 27 months to go.

00:35:05 #422 Well, that's hardly long enough for you to get a true so together.

00:35:08 #423 How would you know about that thing?

00:35:11 #424 Huh?

00:35:30 #425 All of a sudden, you seem a thousand miles off.

00:35:33 #426 Yes, I guess I was, eh?

00:35:37 #427 That's a mighty pretty dress you're wearing tonight.

00:35:39 #428 I wear my vest to please you.

00:35:42 #429 You know, when you look at me, you just tie me in knots.

00:35:46 #430 I love to tie you in knots.

00:35:50 #431 Aw, I'll be so happy when these next few months are over.

00:35:53 #432 Some special reason?

00:35:55 #433 Of course.

00:35:56 #434 So you can stop kissing me goodbye at the door every night.

00:36:00 #435 Yes.

00:36:02 #436 So you can hold me close to you always.

00:36:05 #437 Yes.

00:36:06 #438 Then all you'll have to do is call and close your eyes to feel my little sun new.

00:36:11 #439 Beware, beware, beware of the big green dragon that sits on your doorstep.

00:36:37 #440 He eats little boy of his octails, big fat snail.

00:36:47 #441 He cares.

00:36:52 #442 Okay.

00:52:07 #443 The dual personality.

00:52:08 #444 To tell her of the nighties and negligee's, the sweaters and skirts, the robes and dresses,

00:52:14 #445 the stockings and the high heeled shoes, the wig and the makeup.

00:52:19 #446 All that goes to make Glenn into Glenda.

00:52:22 #447 He tells Barbara he cannot cheat her of the knowledge that she, as his fiance, should

00:52:27 #448 possess all the facts.

00:52:30 #449 He tells her softly, hurriedly at first, then slowly as he becomes more technical.

00:52:36 #450 His hands moved to caress the smooth material of her and Gora's sweater,

00:52:40 #451 which he has so long and so desperately wanted to put on his own body.

00:52:46 #452 He tells of this to her, and she looks to the sweater and to his hand.

00:52:52 #453 When it is all over and that much of the story he knows is told,

00:52:56 #454 Barbara is not sure of her own thoughts.

00:53:00 #455 That's about it, darling.

00:53:03 #456 I want to tell you for a long, long time, but just couldn't bring myself to do it.

00:53:06 #457 and too much afraid of losing him.

00:53:09 #458 Fully understand this, but maybe together we can work it out.

00:54:10 #459 Let's get to it in a minute.

00:54:38 #460 Glenn's case is really the lesser advanced type cases.

00:54:42 #461 The second case is an extremely advanced one.

00:54:44 #462 However, I'll get to that in a moment.

00:54:47 #463 First, you must real-estite the world over

00:54:48 #464 has his own particular problem.

00:54:51 #465 Each case must be handled individually

00:54:53 #466 according to the person, his past life, and his problem.

00:54:57 #467 Did this Glenn have any homosexual tendencies?

00:54:59 #468 Absolutely not.

00:55:00 #469 It's very seldom that a true transvestite does.

00:55:03 #470 And he isn't a hermaphrodite?

00:55:05 #471 No more than he's a pseudo hermaphrodite.

00:55:07 #472 Glenn's case was entirely of his mind, brought on by the environment of his early youth.

00:55:12 #473 What about their children, Doctor?

00:55:14 #474 Would their children become the same way their father is?

00:55:17 #475 No. Transvestism is not hereditary.

00:55:20 #476 Well, what makes these men want to wear girls' clothes?

00:55:23 #477 Many things, but as I've said before, it usually starts an early childhood from one cause or another.

00:55:29 #478 Technically, each case has the same beginning, just a different set of circumstances.

00:55:34 #479 Are any of them actually cured?

00:55:36 #480 Oh yes, many, many of them.

00:55:38 #481 Once the source of supply is found, it can be stopped, unless the patient refuses to cut off that source of supply.

00:55:45 #482 Then the way I get it, this Glenn and the character he created,

00:55:48 #483 much as an author creates a character in a book,

00:55:51 #484 was invented as a love object to take the place of the love he never received in his early youth,

00:55:56 #485 through lack of it from his parents.

00:55:58 #486 The character was created and dressed,

00:56:01 #487 and lives the life the author designs for him to live,

00:56:04 #488 and dies only when the author wants him to die.

00:56:07 #489 Correct.

00:56:08 #490 Except that for the character glended at die, the elements must be right.

00:56:12 #491 But to enlighten you a little further, there's the second story,

00:56:15 #492 that of an extremely advanced case.

00:56:17 #493 Let's call this person Alan.

00:56:19 #494 Alan had a mother who wanted a little girl.

00:56:24 #495 The father didn't care much one way or the other.

00:56:27 #496 Alan did not enter the competitive sports that the other boys of the school did.

00:56:31 #497 However, he was an extremely studious boy and always had above average marks in his subjects.

00:56:36 #498 Yet, sports, girls' sports he always was interested in.

00:56:40 #499 But he was rejected by the girls and also rejected by the boys.

00:56:44 #500 It seems he belonged to neither of them.

00:56:47 #501 After school, Allen would go home to find the mother who had always wanted a girl

00:56:51 #502 and the father who didn't care one way or the other.

00:56:54 #503 He enjoyed doing the woman's work around the house.

00:56:58 #504 Allen was becoming a woman and didn't realize it.

00:57:01 #505 A woman in mind only, but the mind rules.

00:57:05 #506 Then came the fateful year of 1941.

00:57:08 #507 Allen was drafted. He was accepted.

00:57:11 #508 In the Army, he successfully passed his vigorous training.

00:57:14 #509 vigorous training. He did not like it and there were the weekends for his particular diversions.

00:57:20 #510 On his weekend passes he would go to the nearest town where he had a suitcase checked in a public

00:57:24 #511 locker. In the suitcase he had the things he loved to wear. That which made his body appear to be

00:57:33 #512 what his mind believed it was. Then the day of embarkation came. But wherever Allen went the

00:57:42 #513 The suitcase was sure to go.

00:57:44 #514 As quickly as it had begun, the war was over.

00:59:01 #515 Alan came home.

00:59:03 #516 Alan had learned all the terms directed at men like himself,

00:59:07 #517 but no one had found out his aversion.

00:59:09 #518 He was unambly discharged from the service at the end of the war.

00:59:12 #519 He'd received the Silver Star and the Bronze Star for gallantry in action.

00:59:17 #520 While he was in an army hospital recuperating from a wound he had received in New Guinea,

00:59:20 #521 he learned a very interesting fact.

00:59:22 #522 He learned that foreign doctors were doing marvelous work with a sex change.

00:59:26 #523 Man to woman, woman to man.

00:59:29 #524 Shortly after his separation from service, Allen came to me for advice.

00:59:33 #525 There followed many long sessions with my clinical reports and the reports of eminent doctors.

00:59:42 #526 It had been found that Allen was really a pseudo hermaphrodite.

00:59:45 #527 A hermaphrodite is one who has the organs of both the male and female in plain sight.

00:59:51 #528 A pseudo hermaphrodite is one who has one perfectly formed organ of either sex and one imperfectly formed one that's difficult to detect.

00:59:59 #529 Alan was of the latter.

01:00:00 #530 He was then given his choice.

01:00:08 #531 That which nature had given him was a mistake.

01:00:11 #532 It was up to us to correct that mistake one way or the other.

01:00:14 #533 Alan had to decide whether he wanted to become a man or she wanted to become a woman.

01:00:20 #534 Both were completely possible.

01:00:22 #535 Small bone, fair of complexion.

01:00:24 #536 His hair, thin, slightly girly, it was easy to see his decision,

01:00:33 #537 along with the fact that he had been brought up from early childhood to believe that a woman was the thing to be.

01:00:38 #538 Alan decided to become a woman.

01:00:41 #539 This, after all the help I could give him, was only the beginning.

01:00:46 #540 During the following two years, he was to go through the tortures of the damned,

01:00:50 #541 but never was there a whimper from him because he knew that at the end of it all,

01:00:54 #542 he would at last be that which he had always dreamed.

01:00:57 #543 Hundreds of hormone shots were injected into various parts of his body.

01:01:01 #544 Allen's face was worked on with plastic surgery to smooth out the female elements.

01:01:06 #545 Long, tedious hours of work.

01:01:09 #546 The big day, or the starting of many big days, for it was to take many.

01:01:17 #547 The series of operations are performed slowly in intervals to prevent any unnecessary shock to the nervous system.

01:01:24 #548 Till the hormone shots continue day after day, week after week, month after month.

01:01:31 #549 And even then when the operation is over, the sex has changed, the shots must continue as long as Alan lives.

01:01:39 #550 First the breasts are brought out. The body of the woman within begins to appear now.

01:01:51 #551 Of the woman, the woman is Anne, a very happy, lovely young lady that modern medicine and science has created almost as a Frankenstein monster.

01:03:57 #552 The newspapers heard of it and hit the story with their usual fullness.

01:04:01 #553 Papers had not gotten hold of the story.

01:04:04 #554 It would have gone untold, unnoticed to so many others in medical history.

01:04:08 #555 The sex change has been performed hundreds of times.

01:04:11 #556 However, right here in this particular sex switch, it's not the end.

01:04:15 #557 Acting the woman and being the woman are two entirely different things.

01:04:19 #558 Alan, at all his life, acted the part of the woman.

01:04:22 #559 Now he is that woman and must learn how it's done.

01:04:26 #560 how it's done. Anne must learn how to do her own hair, how to make the correct styling for

01:04:33 #561 her facial contours. The proper walk must be adopted. A lady is a lady, whatever the case

01:04:41 #562 may be. Continuing my own psychiatric treatment, it was my duty now to explain to Anne the

01:04:47 #563 duty of a woman in her sex life. Alan, of course, had known the man's, but he was

01:04:52 #564 soon to realize he knew very little about a woman.

01:04:57 #565 Yet, through it all, Anne loved every minute of it.

01:05:01 #566 Anne was indeed meant to be a woman.

01:05:03 #567 And now that the sex change had been completed,

01:05:05 #568 Anne was a very happy woman and a woman who was eager to learn

01:05:09 #569 and now was accepted by society.

01:05:12 #570 A woman born at the age of 24,

01:05:16 #571 in a world that for 24 years she had seen as a man,

01:05:19 #572 but a woman who now would and was properly instructed in how to accept a woman's world.

01:05:26 #573 Thus this case which has a happy ending is due entirely to the corrections made by medical science.

01:05:33 #574 I've had several such cases. In fact in my 20 years of practice I've been prominent in seven.

01:05:38 #575 However my colleagues have had hundreds.

01:05:41 #576 Then you believe that the Glenn of the first story should have this exchange?

01:05:45 #577 In Glenn's case, no, no indeed.

01:05:48 #578 Glenn would never be happy with a sex change.

01:05:50 #579 The Allen of your story ended happy?

01:05:53 #580 I'll tell it to you exactly as I told it to them.

01:05:56 #581 Shortly after Glenn told Barbara of his love for girls clothing,

01:06:00 #582 he started treatments with me.

01:06:02 #583 On the last treatment, both he and Barbara came to me.

01:06:05 #584 I told him the same story of Allen,

01:06:08 #585 and as I told it to you, Inspector,

01:06:11 #586 Anne was a pseudo hermaphrodite.

01:06:13 #587 Even though one of the sexes was imperfect,

01:06:15 #588 she had the organs and the characteristics

01:06:18 #589 of both the male and female.

01:06:20 #590 Glenn's case is an entirely different type of case.

01:06:23 #591 Remember I said, no matter what the case,

01:06:25 #592 it's a different thing.

01:06:27 #593 A new problem to be looked into, then solved.

01:06:30 #594 A new challenge to the psychoanalysis.

01:06:32 #595 Glenn's body holds only one sex, that of the male.

01:06:36 #596 In all our talks, I've learned these pertinent facts.

01:06:40 #597 Glenn's father had no love for his son.

01:06:44 #598 His father wanted Glenn to be a football hero or a baseball player

01:06:49 #599 so that he could brag to his cronies down at the corner saloon as his cronies

01:06:53 #600 bragged to him about their own sons.

01:06:57 #601 Thus the ruse of Glenn's fictitious character.

01:07:00 #602 He invented it when he could find no love from his mother and no love from

01:07:03 #603 his father.

01:07:04 #604 His mother had hated her own father.

01:07:07 #605 Glenn reminded her of her father.

01:07:09 #606 Therefore, she gave all her affection, love, and attention to her daughter.

01:07:14 #607 Glenn then decided also to become a daughter.

01:07:17 #608 Glenn, you can kill a fictitious character of yours anytime you wish.

01:07:21 #609 For your happy ending, it's the only way.

01:07:24 #610 Then you think I can kill this second character by transferring her qualities to Barbara?

01:07:30 #611 Exactly. But as the author and his character, the elements must be right.

01:07:34 #612 It's up to you, Barbara.

01:07:35 #613 You must take the place, give the love, and accept the facts that Glenda has always accepted.

01:07:41 #614 If you love each other as you now believe you do,

01:07:44 #615 it'll be a hard job, but you'll enjoy doing the job.

01:07:47 #616 Should I let him continue to wear girls' clothing?

01:07:50 #617 Or should I put my foot down?

01:07:52 #618 Put your foot down? He'd only go behind closed doors.

01:07:55 #619 Love is the only answer.

01:07:57 #620 Glenda must be transferred to you.

01:07:59 #621 Supposing Glenda never gets over wearing girls' clothing.

01:08:02 #622 Would it matter to you very much?

01:08:06 #623 I love Glenn. I'll do everything I can to make him happy.

01:08:11 #624 Only the beginning. Time passes.

01:08:40 #625 Soon due to a happily married life, the remembrance of the psychiatric treatments and Barbara's love and understanding,

01:08:48 #626 Glenda begins to disappear forever from Glenn.

01:08:51 #627 Glenn has found his mother, his little sister, his wife, and his Glenda all in one lovely package.

01:08:59 #628 Thus, Glenn's case has a happy conclusion.

01:09:03 #629 Therefore, two entirely different cases handled in two entirely different ways have a happy ending.

01:09:10 #630 Yeah, those two.

01:09:11 #631 But what of the hundreds of other less fortunate clans the world over?

01:09:17 #632 Less fortunate clans...

01:09:54 #633 The world...

01:09:55 #634 Snips and snails...

01:10:06 #635 And...

01:10:07 #636 Apiductale.